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Web-Warrior Fanatic · 17434
Weaving Threads
Spider-Man vs. Expert Venom Goblin w/ Infinity Gauntlet!
Spider-Man vs. Expert Ronan
Sinister Motives EXPERT CAMPAIGN
Multiplayer Game vs. Expert Venom Goblin (4 Swinging Web-Kicks in a single turn)
One underrated aspect of Peter Parker Spider-Man is his sewing prowess. This deck revolves around Peter weaving the threads in superhero costumes for his allies. He’s also a spider so there’s that.
Important Change: Swap in Clarity of Purpose for Honorary Avenger
Suit Up
This is our main card. Suit Up tutors an ally and upgrade to our hand. This is very powerful in combination with Sidekick and makes voltron easy to set up because we can grab the ally upgrade we want. However, with this deck we aren’t focusing on voltroning, but rather the ability to tutor an ally from the deck or discard pile. This in itself is insanely good. Suit Up says we can only get an upgrade that can be attached to that ally, but the upgrade we choose doesn’t have to be played. It could also be an upgrade played for Spider-Man.
Ally Upgrades - Warrior of the Great Web & Clarity of Purpose
So the elephant in the room is none of the “ally” upgrades in this deck are actually for the allies. Suit Up doesn’t specify the upgrade, just that it must be able to be attached to that ally. We’re taking advantage of that and just grabbing the upgrade to use as a resource. Warrior of the Great Web is great because it can be attached to any character that has “Spider” in its title. So if Web of Life and Destiny is in hand, we can use Suit Up to tutor a Web-Warrior ally with “Spider” in its title along with Warrior of the Great Web, then play Warrior of the Great Web on Peter Parker (when we’re in hero form) to make ourselves a Web-Warrior and play the Web of Life and Destiny for free ignoring its resource cost. This also makes becoming a Web-Warrior much more reliable so we don’t need multiple copies of Warrior of the Great Web in the deck. Clarity of Purpose is an upgrade that can be attached to an ally and is a mental resource. This is a better option than Honorary Avenger--credits to Journeyman2!
Moon Girl’s Suit
Moon Girl is arguably the best ally for Champion/Genius traited identities. She can draw us 3 cards in addition to her 2 THW 2 ATK statline helping us control the current board state. This makes her the prime target for Suit Up. Suit Up is an alter-ego action so we can only play it in Peter Parker form (which makes sense since we’re sewing costumes). Moon Girl can only be played when our identity has the Champion or Genius trait, and Peter only has the Genius trait in alter-ego so this fits perfectly. Our standard sequence is to play Suit Up, grab Moon Girl with Clarity of Purpose, then play Avengers Mansion (or any other expensive card). Here’s the math: starting the turn in alter-ego gives us 7 effective resources with a handsize of 6 + 1 resource with Peter’s ability—Scientist. Suit Up is 3 effective resources to play but we get 2 cards back, so it’s a -1 net loss putting us at 6 effective resources in hand. Moon Girl is 4 effective resources to play but she draws us 3 cards back, so another -1 net loss puts us at 5 effective resources in hand. This is enough to play Avengers Mansion or any other expensive support/upgrade/ally. Everytime we have Suit Up, we can recur Moon Girl. Being able to play a strong ally and powerful support during every alter-ego turn is big tempo for the player. This also lets us see several cards in the deck letting us pick which support/upgrade we want.
Professor X’s Suit
There’s a lot of flipping with this deck, but not many ways to control threat other than thwarting. In fact, we only have 1 source of confuse—Professor X. This is where Suit Up comes in again! We can tutor any ally so if we need to flip down to alter-ego to heal/etc, a copy of Suit Up is essentially having that confuse. Peter can tailor Professor X’s 2 piece suit!
High Tempo
This deck focuses on building out the board, but by recurring Moon Girl and drawing cards with her ability, we are constantly applying pressure to the villain and going through our deck quickly. More than likely we can start every game strong with Moon Girl turn 1 (mulligan for Suit Up, Moon Girl, or Nick Fury) and ideally we can flip to alter-ego every other turn and play Moon Girl to draw 3 on those turns we flip.
Mental Resources
Moon Girl, Black Cat, and Peter Parker’s alter-ego ability—Scientist all synergize with mental resources. This deck was built with a heavy emphasis on mental resources. Currently, there is no upgrade in leadership/basic that can be attached to Moon Girl and has a mental resource. If/when such a card is released I would definitely replace Honorary Avenger with it. There is an upgrade--Clarity of Purpose!
Ally Selection
Moon Girl, Nick Fury, Maria Hill, and Ironheart are S tier allies that give us draw power and are mental resources. Professor X has our confuse. We have 4 Web-Warriors: Ghost-Spider, Spider-Man Hobie Brown, Spider-Man Otto Octavius, and SP//dr. These are the more dependable Web-Warrior allies in the game and I included them in this deck with Suit Up making becoming a Web-Warrior more consistent because we can tutor Warrior of the Great Web. Grab the Web-Warrior cards when you deem necessary!
Deck space is limited but here are some great allies and why they barely missed the cut:
• Black Panther - Mental resource with an amazing enter play ability. Black Panther’s effect to hold a copy of Suit Up to use on demand is extremely powerful, but unfortunately his cost is a little hefty and we can’t use The Power in All of Us for him. Since Black Panther is 4 cost, if he grabs Suit Up, we usually won’t be able to play the ally immediately even with Peter’s high economy since we’ll need even more resources on top of that. Because of this, he’s a little slower than I’d like for this deck.
• Beast - Another mental resource ally and another amazing enter play ability. Beast didn’t make the cut because if we’re already in alter-ego to play Suit Up, Moon Girl and Nick Fury are better targets to hit since they can draw us 3 cards which is more resources than what Beast can provide in this deck. He’s also a leadership ally so like with Black Panther, The Power in All of Us doesn’t work for him.
• Spider-Man Miles Morales - High tempo and super strong basic ally. Unfortunately he doesn’t have the Web-Warrior trait and isn’t a mental resource.
Multiplayer
This deck was made primarily for true solo, but will absolutely pop off in multiplayer thanks to the easier access to alter-ego. To be a team player, Suit Up Maria Hill and give everyone extra card draw. In multiplayer, we can stay in alter-ego multiple turns in a row and recur Maria Hill back to back turns.
Changes
• The Triskelion - After my game against Venom Goblin, I realized The Triskelion would be a good addition to this deck because I often maxed out on the 3 ally limit. I swapped out Make the Call since we already have 3 copies of Suit Up to tutor an ally to the hand. I made this change before posting the decklist!
• Clarity of Purpose - HUGE shoutouts to Journeyman2 for this. Clarity of Purpose is an upgrade that can be attached to an ally. Since we are using the ally upgrade that Suit Up grabs as a resource, we want the printed mental resource on Clarity of Purpose to pay for Moon Girl. This change was made after publishing, so I'm unable to change it on the decklist unfortunately :(
Conclusion
Peter Parker Spider-Man keeps getting better! Moon Girl has always been a strong ally for Spider-Man, but her requirement to have the Champion/Genius trait was restricting. Suit Up being an alter-ego action synergizes perfectly with Moon Girl for Peter because he needs to be in alter-ego anyways to play her. Since Peter already has high economy and works well with allies, Suit Up is a huge buff for him. Hope you enjoy this fun and thematic deck!
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Apr 19, 2024 |
Apr 19, 2024
You were the first person I’ve seen use Suit Up for Spider-Man which gave me the idea for this deck :) |
Apr 19, 2024Clarity of Purpose would have gotten you a ! Moon Girl definitely fits into the Spider Wardrobe deck, made the same recommendation to Chocobo! I really like doing a similar thing with Med Lab in Genius heroes, but you can’t chump her in that case. |
Apr 19, 2024
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Apr 20, 2024Yep, CoP is "fun" on allies (you can dish it out to partners in MP too). Got a Star-Lord deck that specifically uses "high HP vs cost" allies (Groot, U.S. Agent, Martinex, Blade etc) from where ever and using GotG team / Knowhere applies CoP/Reinforced Suit to them "for profit". Then also uses them with either Strength In Numbers or Teamwork which I get to use their' stats - inc Leader of the Guardians - but they don't take CD. They usually supply the resource for the Element Gun's (just a little "life-force"). Star-Lord is a bad-bad man! And, because Star-Lord needs "more resources"... :) |
Apr 20, 2024
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Apr 21, 2024Suit up is criminally underrated! I've been messing around with it a lot in non-sidekick decks too, but think this is the first I've seen someone else do it. Peter is perfect for this kind of thing because black cat doesn't really need sidekick, since she attacks without consequential |
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Apr 23, 2024Putting clarity of purpose on black cat would make sidekick more useful in this deck, especially if you are planning on flipping a bunch, as she can hit and be a resource generator for 3 turns before healing her |
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Apr 26, 2024This deck is awesome! |
Apr 26, 2024
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Apr 26, 2024Cool deck, man! Suit Up being able to tutor Warrior of the Great Web is great way to streamline Web-Warriors Spidey in addition to everything else it does. It looks like a lot of fun, so I'll try and find time to try it out for myself too! |
Apr 27, 2024Thanks |
May 06, 2024I don't think Warrior of the Great Web justifies itself here. Suit Up's net -1 card isn't really how that calculation works, since you're ostensibly playing both of those cards. A true increase in net resource value comes when you're drawing cards for the resources themselves. But because Suit up already costs 2 (plus itself), you're drawing two cards you want to play into a hand of 2-3 cards remaining, which makes playing both a difficult ask. Meanwhile, using a deck slot to play Warrior of the Great Web just to make Web of Life and Destiny free isn't as good a trade as it seems on paper. First you're losing the opportunity cost of Suit Up's upgrade, then you're losing the cost of the upgrade itself, and then you're losing the card itself. If you're using your basic attack a lot, it's great (especially since the deck uses Ghost Spider and SPDR), but if you're just using it to become a Web-Warrior, your deck is going to be more streamlined just playing it for the 3 and using your remaining slot for something else (plenty of good ally attachments going around). For my money, it's wild not to run Ronin with a Reinforced Suit, since that's better long-term value than just about any other ally in that deck aside from SPDR who's netting you hand advantage just by existing. By the same token, Moon Girl's value is overstated here. She draws you three cards when played (only if you had 3 int to play), but she still only gets to attack/thwart twice, and you're still using Suit Up to grab her every other turn. Notably, Suit Up to grab Moon Girl isn't actually net -2 resources because of how the resource economy in this game works. You're spending three cards to get two, but you have to play one of those two, so it's really three cards for one resource (if you're throwing away the upgrade) and one obligation. That leaves you with four potential resources and a Moon Girl. Even if you're drawing three cards with her, you might have two cards in your hand that you want to keep or play at higher priority than Moon Girl. That means her draw power is useless since you can't use it that turn without sacrificing other valuable cards. Even then, if we ignore the compounding resource issue, she would still be a net -2 card play every other turn for 2 uses of 2 thwart/damage. Meanwhile, if you just shove Ronin and Reinforced Suit in that deck, he's net -5 resources once for 5 uses of 3 atk or 2 thwart (foregoing additional opportunity cost). You're trading 15 atk/10 thw for 4 atk/4thw and net +3 resources one time, with the net resources decreasing to worse return than Ronin in 3 uses, let alone the 5 that Ronin would provide. Even throwing Reinforced Suit on Moon Girl would raise her to net -3 resources for 6 atk/thw once, with future opportunity costs (those Suit Ups could be played on Web Warrior allies with better effects). And again, that's only IF you spend the three int resources. If you get stuck needing to pay 2, her value drops a ton by comparison. Don't even get me started if you just throw Inspired on Ronin too. His value is just way higher than Moon Girl's. |
May 07, 2024
For Warrior of the Great Web, I agree that it's more useful for heroes that ready a lot, but I think using it to play Web of Life and Destiny for free or allow Peter to play web-warrior allies makes it more than worth it. Web of Life and Destiny is a 3 cost card, but you can use 2 effective resources to play it instead with the 1 cost Warrior of the Great Web. With Suit Up, we can even dictate when we want Warrior of the Great Web because we're ready to get the web-warrior cards down. The reason why I prefer Moon Girl over Ronin here is because we want Moon Girl to get defeated and recur her. She refunds most of her cost, can thwart or attack for 2, then either chump block or activate again next turn. Then we immediate recur her and do the same thing. If Ronin is in play with relatively high HP and we need an ally to block a heavy attack from the villain the upgrades played on him is wasted. I think comparing Ronin to Moon Girl is kind of like comparing apples to oranges because Ronin wants to be voltroned and Moon Girl doesn't. I'd highly encourage you to check out my playthroughs with this deck or try it out yourself! I've never had the compounding resource issue you mentioned and have always been able to draw the full 3 cards with Moon Girl's effect. |
Jul 30, 2024any updates to the deck 3 months in? |
Aug 07, 2024Is it possible to search the Spider Man upgrade Web-Shooter with Suit up? |
Aug 07, 2024
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Suit Up with Peter is such a great combo that enables so much!