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Suit Up with Peter is such a great combo that enables so much!

@andyr Agreed! And it’s super thematic for Pete!

You were the first person I’ve seen use Suit Up for Spider-Man which gave me the idea for this deck :)

Clarity of Purpose would have gotten you a ! Moon Girl definitely fits into the Spider Wardrobe deck, made the same recommendation to Chocobo! I really like doing a similar thing with Med Lab in Genius heroes, but you can’t chump her in that case.

@journeyman2 I gotta check that out! And WOAH Clarity of Purpose attached to an ally?! I didn’t realize that was possible but it does say “attach to a friendly character.” That’s insane and crazy good as a target for Suit Up along with Moon Girl. Adding that change right away—thanks a bunch!!

Yep, CoP is "fun" on allies (you can dish it out to partners in MP too). Got a Star-Lord deck that specifically uses "high HP vs cost" allies (Groot, U.S. Agent, Martinex, Blade etc) from where ever and using GotG team / Knowhere applies CoP/Reinforced Suit to them "for profit".

Then also uses them with either Strength In Numbers or Teamwork which I get to use their' stats - inc Leader of the Guardians - but they don't take CD. They usually supply the resource for the Element Gun's (just a little "life-force"). Star-Lord is a bad-bad man! And, because Star-Lord needs "more resources"... :)

@Sluggie That’s very cool. I had no clue Clarity of Purpose had so much versatility. I gotta try out that Star-Lord combo!

Suit up is criminally underrated! I've been messing around with it a lot in non-sidekick decks too, but think this is the first I've seen someone else do it. Peter is perfect for this kind of thing because black cat doesn't really need sidekick, since she attacks without consequential

@HeroicSkeleton Totally agreed! Without Sidekick, I actually think Moon Girl is the best target for Suit Up because her draw ability is the most efficient in the game and Peter gets the most benefit since he can only play her in AE anyways and can generate that mental resource! I also haven’t seen Suit Up decks that lean more into the ability to tutor an ally. I’m interested to see what other heroes you’re trying this with and how they play!

@Web-Warrior Fanatic I've mostly just played it with some standard voltrons so far, but have been working on some other ideas. The main one I'm looking at that's similar to your moon girl idea is Shuri. Being able to so easily tutor her and get T'Challa suited up right away sounds pretty good. Also, she can grab any upgrade, including another ally upgrade. Meaning you can turbo suit up a voltron. Haven't had the time to test anything yet, but if it's cool I'll post :)

@HeroicSkeleton The idea with Shuri sounds very cool. I’m digging that “turbo suit up” concept… can see it being very powerful for Iron Man ally. Hopefully we’ll get Wakandan upgrades in the future to attach to Black Panther. Looking forward to your deck and ways to abuse Suit Up haha

Putting clarity of purpose on black cat would make sidekick more useful in this deck, especially if you are planning on flipping a bunch, as she can hit and be a resource generator for 3 turns before healing her

@MOSER319 Clarity of Purpose is definitely the best upgrade for this deck, but it's only used as a mental resource to play Moon Girl. Even though this list revolves around Suit Up, this isn't a voltron deck and I didn't put Sidekick in or any upgrade meant for an ally. But that's a really cool combo making Black Cat work well with Sidekick by having her take damage!

@Web-Warrior Fanatic Fair enough! Maybe I'll alter this deck to be more of a sidekick deck but I am def not as skilled as you at deck crafting, just enjoy playing all the different awesome decks on tts

@MOSER319 I'm no expert deckbuilder by any means! I focus on practical all-rounder strategies that I can use to defeat the most villains I can because that's when I have the most fun. Recurring Moon Girl in alter-ego is the main strategy with this deck, but I can see a lot of fun with making Black Cat your sidekick. I totally encourage you to make changes to best fit how you want to play :)

This deck is awesome!

@KyubiiKobi Thanks Kobi! That 53 damage turn today was crazy!!! I never thought 4 Swinging Web-Kicks in 1 turn was possible.

Cool deck, man! Suit Up being able to tutor Warrior of the Great Web is great way to streamline Web-Warriors Spidey in addition to everything else it does. It looks like a lot of fun, so I'll try and find time to try it out for myself too!

Thanks @16 Nights Seeker ! I agree Suit Up’s flexibility to grab the web-warrior stuff is crazy good. Hope you enjoy using it with Spidey as much as I did :)

I don't think Warrior of the Great Web justifies itself here. Suit Up's net -1 card isn't really how that calculation works, since you're ostensibly playing both of those cards. A true increase in net resource value comes when you're drawing cards for the resources themselves. But because Suit up already costs 2 (plus itself), you're drawing two cards you want to play into a hand of 2-3 cards remaining, which makes playing both a difficult ask.

Meanwhile, using a deck slot to play Warrior of the Great Web just to make Web of Life and Destiny free isn't as good a trade as it seems on paper. First you're losing the opportunity cost of Suit Up's upgrade, then you're losing the cost of the upgrade itself, and then you're losing the card itself. If you're using your basic attack a lot, it's great (especially since the deck uses Ghost Spider and SPDR), but if you're just using it to become a Web-Warrior, your deck is going to be more streamlined just playing it for the 3 and using your remaining slot for something else (plenty of good ally attachments going around). For my money, it's wild not to run Ronin with a Reinforced Suit, since that's better long-term value than just about any other ally in that deck aside from SPDR who's netting you hand advantage just by existing. By the same token, Moon Girl's value is overstated here. She draws you three cards when played (only if you had 3 int to play), but she still only gets to attack/thwart twice, and you're still using Suit Up to grab her every other turn. Notably, Suit Up to grab Moon Girl isn't actually net -2 resources because of how the resource economy in this game works. You're spending three cards to get two, but you have to play one of those two, so it's really three cards for one resource (if you're throwing away the upgrade) and one obligation. That leaves you with four potential resources and a Moon Girl. Even if you're drawing three cards with her, you might have two cards in your hand that you want to keep or play at higher priority than Moon Girl. That means her draw power is useless since you can't use it that turn without sacrificing other valuable cards. Even then, if we ignore the compounding resource issue, she would still be a net -2 card play every other turn for 2 uses of 2 thwart/damage.

Meanwhile, if you just shove Ronin and Reinforced Suit in that deck, he's net -5 resources once for 5 uses of 3 atk or 2 thwart (foregoing additional opportunity cost). You're trading 15 atk/10 thw for 4 atk/4thw and net +3 resources one time, with the net resources decreasing to worse return than Ronin in 3 uses, let alone the 5 that Ronin would provide. Even throwing Reinforced Suit on Moon Girl would raise her to net -3 resources for 6 atk/thw once, with future opportunity costs (those Suit Ups could be played on Web Warrior allies with better effects). And again, that's only IF you spend the three int resources. If you get stuck needing to pay 2, her value drops a ton by comparison. Don't even get me started if you just throw Inspired on Ronin too. His value is just way higher than Moon Girl's.

@Janube Thanks for the writeup! I can understand where you're coming from with Suit Up but I don't agree. Playing Suit Up is a net -1 resource because you're losing 3 effective resources and getting 2 back. If you play Suit Up from an alter-ego starting hand size of 6, do the combo to play Moon Girl, you'll end up with 4 cards/resources in hand like you said. But I think this is very good. Going from 6 cards in hand to 4 cards while also getting a 2 THW/2 ATK ally out is always worth it in my opinion--that's equivalent to a 1 cost ally with 2 THW/2 ATK and 2 activations! Combine this with Peter Parker's Scientist ability and we have enough resources left to play 1 Avengers Mansion or Ingenuity with a 2 cost ally. Considering how we're going through our deck drawing cards we're more than likely to get double resources and the cards we want to play on the way.

For Warrior of the Great Web, I agree that it's more useful for heroes that ready a lot, but I think using it to play Web of Life and Destiny for free or allow Peter to play web-warrior allies makes it more than worth it. Web of Life and Destiny is a 3 cost card, but you can use 2 effective resources to play it instead with the 1 cost Warrior of the Great Web. With Suit Up, we can even dictate when we want Warrior of the Great Web because we're ready to get the web-warrior cards down.

The reason why I prefer Moon Girl over Ronin here is because we want Moon Girl to get defeated and recur her. She refunds most of her cost, can thwart or attack for 2, then either chump block or activate again next turn. Then we immediate recur her and do the same thing. If Ronin is in play with relatively high HP and we need an ally to block a heavy attack from the villain the upgrades played on him is wasted. I think comparing Ronin to Moon Girl is kind of like comparing apples to oranges because Ronin wants to be voltroned and Moon Girl doesn't.

I'd highly encourage you to check out my playthroughs with this deck or try it out yourself! I've never had the compounding resource issue you mentioned and have always been able to draw the full 3 cards with Moon Girl's effect.