Jennifer Walters, Rules Lawyer

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MegiDolaDyne · 1244

Members of the jury, I am here today to clear the name of one Jennifer Walters; a hero in this game who has been given unfairly harsh treatment by our society. One of the first heroes ever released, people tend to look down on her because of some really weak cards (particularly Ground Stomp and Legal Practice), low hand size in hero form, and a somewhat awkward thwarting situation (though honestly her thwarting is actually quite good by Core Set standards). The prosecution has gone as far as to call her “bottom tier” and compare her to her no-good cousin, an absolutely outrageous claim.

But now, with the latest iteration of the Rules Reference Guide (RRG 1.5), we might be able to save poor Jennifer's reputation with a bit of rules lawyering. Let us look at the card Superhuman Strength. Historically it's a somewhat awkward stun card; you use it once and then it goes away due to its Forced Response. But imagine if you could keep it perpetually. That's a +2 ATK upgrade, and you have two copies that can stack, potentially bringing your ATK value to 7, permanently. Is such a thing possible? Well, in the past the answer was no, but let us look now at what the new version of the RRG has to say about Forced effects. Forced; article 1: “If a forced ability requires one or more targets to resolve and it has no valid targets, it does not initiate.” Furthermore, in subsection A: “Any costs that would have been paid to initiate the ability are not paid.” The cost in question: discarding Superhuman Strength. So now we can keep the card in play provided we don't have a valid target for its effect.

Now, how can we go about making sure our targets are deemed invalid? There are a few ways. The easiest is to make sure the target is gone. You cannot stun a minion that no longer exists, and there are few minions that will survive a 7 damage swing. You can also go after a Stalwart target; the likes of Thanos and Master Mold are easy pickings, and depending on the weather it can be anyone. And then, finally, the third way is what this deck is built around: you cannot stun an enemy that is already stunned.

So, our goals are simple: keep the villain stunned. Tackle, Iron Fist, and Mockingbird all provide the usual stunlock package. And since we're She-Hulk, we can also supplement that by flipping to Alter-Ego as often as we can afford to, keeping the villain stunned for even longer. If the villain is stunned, we have 7 ATK and four different flavors of readying; they will not survive long. If the villain can't be stunned, because they're Stalwart? We have 7 ATK and four different flavors of readying, they will not survive long. If the villain is Steady? ...Okay, fine, then we have some problems. But we do have enough stun cards that we'll still be able to do some big damage if we prepare for it. Professor X makes it easier for us to flip, provides a valuable burst of 3 threat removal, and once in a while he can even stun a minion if they can somehow survive your absurd level of offense. We also have Iceman as an additional source of minion stun.

Some people see rules as restrictions. A list of things you're not allowed to do. But to a lawyer of Jennifer Walters's caliber, rules are putty to be molded however you please. It feels almost like cheating, being able to hit twice as hard as the Hulk with this much consistency. But it's not cheating at all; just pure rules lawyering.


May 25, 2023 journeyman2 · 11214

A great reason to revisit She-Hulk!!

May 25, 2023 josseroo · 202

Beyond clever!

May 26, 2023 VillainTheory · 13400

Great deck, love it. The use of Iceman here is fun! We'll be trying this the next time we play She-Hulk.

May 26, 2023 Edufarre · 1

I love the theme thing so much. Lawyering the rules to get this is a wonderful idea. I am going to try it. Thanks for sharing.

May 26, 2023 celric · 324

While your evidence is compelling, it doesn’t completely exonerate her of past crimes. We recommend a probationary release with community service.

May 26, 2023 Marctimmins89 · 159

I would've assumed for a Stalwart enemy the Forced would resolve but the status card would just drop off immediately.

May 26, 2023 MegiDolaDyne · 1244

I wasn't 100% sure when RRG 1.5 came out, which is why I waited for a ruling before posting the list. Direct quote from Alex: "If She-Hulk cannot stun the enemy she attacks (e.g. the enemy is already stunned), then the Forced Response on Superhuman Strength does not initiate."

May 26, 2023 Marctimmins89 · 159

And that's the same for an enemy who is Stalwart?

May 26, 2023 MegiDolaDyne · 1244

They didn't specify, but there's no reason it wouldn't be the same. Stalwart literally means "can't be stunned or confused," which meets the requirement of "She-Hulk cannot stun the enemy". Status cards only "fall off" of Stalwart characters if they were already statused before becoming Stalwart, which isn't the case here.

May 27, 2023 dragoth · 1

In light of this new information the prosecution moves to withdrawal all charges at this time.

May 28, 2023 seneca29 · 1

Are you sure that "Forced response" doesn't trigger before applying damage?

May 28, 2023 mv2392 · 14

Nicely done! I've never played she-hulk but had always thought of trying to keep those in play. May be time to take her for a ride!

May 29, 2023 saintmatthew · 33

This is genius. Incredible.

May 29, 2023 Grobatar · 1

@seneca29 The effect would trigger before it was a forced interruption, but a forced response operates after the event triggering it occurs.