Quicksilver combo

Where are you getting 16Atk?

1Atk Quicksilver +2 Maximum Velocity +3 Adrenaline Rush +1 Combat Training +1 Reinforced Sinew Total: 9 Atk

The 3 Brute Force get discarded immediately when you make a basic attack. The 3 Fluid Motion cannot be activated because you only have 1 attack event.

As for more damage: Jarnbjorn It's a +2 dmg per attack that can be paid for with Friction Resistance each time.

@Crowscrowcrow ah I didn't realize that brute force only works for the first attack and since fluid motion is a hero response it should trigger when I play quick strike an activate before the calculations for quick strike right?

also your forgetting reinforced sinew which would put it up to 13 then

also @Crowscrowcrow jarnbjorn does seem good I won't be able to trigger it every attack since I need some of those resources to fundthe rest of the combo but it will add some extra damage

1. I included Reinforced Sinew, didn't I? It's the last one.

2a. Fluid Motion is "Hero Response: After you" so it triggers after Quick Strike has resolved. It would need to be a Hero Interupt. 2b. Fluid Motion has "(Max 1 per ATTACK event.)" which means that if you had 3 in play and played Quick Strike, only 1 of them may be used. The other 2 would require 2 more Attack Events to trigger.

3. You could get "Symbiote Suit" for more damage. Not just a +1 to all stats, but also an extra card draw which might translate to another ready.

@Crowscrowcrowyeah sorry I did realized you did mention reinforced sinew after. too bad about the fluid motion stuff. I thought about symbiote suit but the downside of extra encounter cards didn't seem worth it I already update it for a version 3 with jarnbjorn and extra resource cards to fund it. I'll make a version 4 with extra quick strikes to trigger all the fluid motions as well as maybe symbiote suit. am I correct to assume that each fluid motion would trigger on a separate quick strike so the attacks would go from 9 to 10 then 11 then 12?

@Jake8cake Looks like I did miscount though. o.O

1 Atk Quicksilver

+2 Maximum Velocity

+3 Adrenaline Rush

+1 Combat Training

+1 Reinforced Sinew

Total: 8 Atk

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Symbiote Suit should definitely not be played early, but if you play it a turn before you are throwing 100+ damage around, it has no downside. xD

You are correct that each fluid motion would trigger on a separate quickstrike. (If you are going to be using multiple attacks, I guess you might as well include Martial Prowess to pay for it.)

Oh, and in regards to adding more damage in a single turn. You could add 2 more Avenger Allies and up Earth's Mightiest Heroes to 3 for free readies.

@Crowscrowcrowthere is two maximun velocities though so plus 4

@Crowscrowcrow I already have to play a lot of cards in a single turn and barely have hand space for it extra copies of avenger mightiest hero's according to my math if I play three copies of quick strike to trigger each fluid motion I only have one card let and 1 resoucre left so currently the final card is a strength card so Jarnbjorn can deal 6 as a opposed to 2, I could play an extra avenger ally and earth's mightiest heroes. to technically deal an extra 9 damage but I would not have hand space to play 2 more of them

@Jake8cake Maximum Velocity has the limit of "Max 1 per phase." So you can only play 1 on the combo turn. So, good/bad news, that frees up 3 effective resources.

@Crowscrowcrow dang it well yeah but the more useless cards that are not part of the deck clog up the draw pile for when you want to go off. but yeah that can be another copy of earth's mightiest and 4 more damage on jarnbjorn. I will make an update version 4 once I figure out all the math agin

@Crowscrowcrow wait I'm one card short to put in two more allies plus two more earth's mightiest

@Jake8cake I'm not sure what you mean by that.

@Crowscrowcrow I am up to 49 cards so I can't fit in one more ally plus one more earth's mightiest heroes

@Crowscrowcrow this is all the math i think I did everything correctly 1 Atk Quicksilver +2 Maximum Velocity +3 Adrenaline Rush +1 Combat Training +1 Reinforced Sinew +1 symbiote suit (after all quick strikes +3 from fluid motion) Total 12 attack

1 basic attack +1 super speed +4 always be running +3 tenacity +2 earth’s mightiest heroes Total 11 attacks effects

+1 Quincarrier +1 helicarrier +1 deft focus +3 enhanced focus +3 enhanced physique +3 enhanced reflexes +10 friction resistance +2 strength Total 24 resources

Basic hand size of 6 +1 symbiote suit +1 avengers mansion +3 asses the situation Total hand size on combo turn 11

Cards you need in your hand on combo turn 1 maxim velocity 3 quick strike 4 always be running 2 earth’s mightiest heroes 1 strength

Total cost of the combo
2 maximum velocity 6 quickstrikes 4 always be running 3 tenacity 22-15 leaves 7 left over for jarnbjorn for a total of 14

All together (from the quick strikes)9+10+11+(12x11)+14 =176

@Jake8cake The math looks great. You could get 1 more card draw from Pietrov's "Superpowered Siblings" ability since Scarlet Witch will be in play. Which also provides a bit of hand filtering.

@Crowscrowcrow yeah I'm already at 50 cards (since I added the strength for 4 extra damage) so I don't know what I would cut

@Crowscrowcrow oh I see what you mean quick silvers alter ego ability ok

marvelcdb.com so here is version 4 should probably be the last until the print new cards to deal even more damage

@Jake8cake Great! Now, I'm going to be a massive jerk and show you how to do even more damage. xD

...In PROTECTION of all things.

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1 ATK Quicksilver

+2 Maximum Velocity

+3 Adrenaline Rush

+1 Reinforced Sinew

+1 symbiote suit

Total 8 ATK Base

+7 ATK from 3x Repurpose using 1x Forcefield Generator and 2x Energy Barrier

Total Atk: 15

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Number of Basic Attacks: (and dmg)

1 basic attack (8)

+3 Repurpose (11, 13, 15 respectively for 47)

+1 super speed (62)

+4 always be running (4x15=60 =122)

+3 tenacity (3x15=45 =167)

+3 earth’s mightiest heroes (3x15=45 =212)

Total 14 basic attack effects

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Card Draw: 12 Basic hand size of 6 +1 symbiote suit +1 avengers mansion +3 asses the situation +1Superpowered Siblings

Required Cards in hand: 11 1 maxim velocity 3 Repurpose 4 always be running 3 earth’s mightiest heroes

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Total Cost:

2 maximum velocity (Helicarrier, Quincarrier)

4 always be running (Friction Resistance)

3 tenacity (Friction Resistance)

Since Repurpose is free and we're not paying for Jarnbjorn, the entire combo can be paid for using just 3 support cards, which cuts a lot of resource cards from the deck.

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So, there you have it. 212.

@Crowscrowcrow damn out played huh. repurpose is a messed up card. you even have extra card space I think for resources or other support that just helps make it more consistent

@Crowscrowcrow are there any protection avenger allies that can make you do more damage since you need three of them anyways for earth's mightiest heroes

@Jake8cake Hardly. I love playing Quicksilver and his combo potential so I've tried many of his combo concepts. I assumed that Aggro would have the best damage when it's totally dedicated, but after you laid it all out it, I wanted to slot in Repurpose to see how far it would get in this setup. I was actually surprised to see it net an extra 36.

@Jake8cake I don't think there are any protection allies that would increase the damage. Aside from maybe attacking. Protection has a couple more Ready events that might increase the damage further if they could be paid for.

@Crowscrowcrow they can though right put in like deft focus and some of the enhanced cycle also you had a hand size of 12 but only 11 cards so there that

@Jake8cakeI just remembered that Leading Blow is a thing. Pretty sure that'll always ready for free.

@Crowscrowcrow yeah it will. do I have permission to make and publish this protection version of the deck I can credit you if you want

@Jake8cake Heh, I appreciate the sentiment. You don't need permission to make a Quicksilver Repurpose deck. Pretty sure there are a couple already.

Go nuts! I'll probably be on the comments there and poke at it too. xD

@Crowscrowcrow Jocasta allows you to play an extra card so the I can have two leading blow

@Jake8cakeGood find, but no. Joscasta specifies a "defense event" not a "protection event".

@Crowscrowcrow ah well brother vooddoo is a good ally as it can help set up the combo the turn before or it can just be a value piece.

I was thinking...

If the total hand is 12 with Superpowered Siblings, that's actually drawing 14 cards (Discard 2). That's 14/19 Events if everything else is already in play. That does make it pretty easy to get some consistency for the combo turn.

Event (19) 4x Always Be Running 3x Assess the Situation 2x Double Time 3x Earth's Mightiest Heroes 1x Leading Blow 2x Maximum Velocity 3x Repurpose 1x Speed Cyclone

Makes me wonder if there are any other ways to either shave this down or get more draw/filtering to make it 100% certain you get the perfect hand. I mean, I guess just skipping a turn and discarding the non-combo cards works, but mhm.

@Crowscrowcrow Serval Industries helps a bit with manipulating the deck

@Crowscrowcrow currently I am at clean 40 card deck I'm just wondering if adding other support or upgrades could help accelerate the setup process. this deck is starting to look pretty easy to actually pull of in a real game unlike the tedious set up of the previous deck

@Crowscrowcrow wait Ready to Rumble adds another ready effect

@Jake8cake

Ready to Rumble wouldn't work as a ready effect. Quicksilver can only trigger it by swapping from Alter-Ego to Hero, so that's not an extra attack. (Unless you became exhausted in Alter-Ego for some reason.)

I'm curious what the 40 looks like. I'm staring at 41 and weighing options. I don't think there are other support cards I'd consider a significant addition. There's some fun options like +1Def and Unflappable for extra survival and draw but meh ^^;

@Crowscrowcrow marvelcdb.com there my 40 cards I was also considering the upgrade for +1 def just to help survive as you set up

@Crowscrowcrow I do need to cut ready to rumble though and I accidently cut leading blow