Wait, so you haven't played this deck yet?

@corbintm Nope, not yet!

How do you get 12 likes & favorites on a deck you published a few hours ago and haven't even played? Do you just have 12 accounts to pump up your ratings or something?

@jasonbrown0620 lol yup. All the views/likes on my video analyzing the deck are actually just me too.

I like it because I like it :)

@MaNemJeff hey thanks man. Really appreciate you. I’m looking forward to getting feedback for this deck haha

Why not just wait and post it after you playtest it?

@tjjj I got several requests for my take on Jubilee and decided to just post what I’ve been working on. I didn’t expect for anyone to get upset over it since I’ve posted many decks without having played them for deckbuilding tutorials and feedback has always been positive.

Not upset, genuinely curious. In my mind I sort of reserve the published deck space of cdb for polished decks with a decent amount of testing to support it. But maybe I use it differently than most.

@tjjj I wasn’t implying that YOU were upset, Tj! And that’s fair. Seems like I’m the one out of line publishing this deck. I just assumed it was fine to post whatever we want on CDB, and like i said before no one ever questioned me the other times I’ve done this.

I see lay the trap made it again. Nice!

@Daring Lime haha you showed me the way with Lay the Trap and i will never forget it

@tjjj you definitely have a different mindset... most people are just posting whatever they think it's fun (and there are quite a few meme decks)

also a lot of people write entire blog posts roleplaying or memeing in their deck descriptions (especially the old ones)

I like the concept. I hope to try it soon.

I find it weird that people want to police this site...

@melethron1 It's always a fun time seeing the different decks on here. I really appreciate your perspective.

@Dansome ah a comment about the deck :) Rooting that it runs smoothly and fun for you!!

`@Web-Warrior Fanatic Hey, there something i can’t understand : Jubilee can only put Shopping Spree in game from the deck. How can you get it from your discard pile ? I can’t see the card that makes you do it … thanks !

@Charles You can put It back into the deck Witch Mutant Education

@Charles We can put it back in the deck with Mutant Education, just like what @DarkPattata said! Hopefully with 3 copies of Mutant Education and 5 player side schemes in the deck, we can have a target for Chance Encounter each time it gets drawn.

Indeed @DarkPattata and @Web-Warrior Fanatic ! Thanks !

After you play the deck, I would love to know how you feel. It seems like recurring shopping spree might be a little clunky especially with the other player side schemes potentially in play. Beat cops are a really fun card in this list, especially if you manage to get multiples! Jubilee seems to have some good confuse capabilities and mutant education just seems to synergize so well with that, so that seems like a great strategy. I might try to build her into some more alter ego centric builds as well. Excited to hear how it goes!

Are the double resources mostly just for Nick, Wolverine, and Beat Cops?

@MAXFightMan I’ll definitely update with playthroughs and thoughts, especially if it runs clunky! My Jubilee shipment just got delayed so it might be awhile longer :(

I love alter-ego shenanigans and feel like there’s big potential with Shopping Spree. Thanks for checking out the deck :)

@Caldias Yep! Also for Avengers Mansion, X-Jet, X-Mansion, Under Surveillance, and Blinding Flash so 10 targets. Doubles are also solid for her events if we just need damage/thwart and don’t care about the stun/confuse.

Who dares question Web-Warrior?! Man is one of the best Champions players around.

Thought I'd pop into the discussion with two thoughts...

Firstly, I don't think there's any problem with posting decks without having played them. I'll let you all in on a secret - the first deck that I posted that really racked up a number of likes on here (Brute Force Arrows) - well... I've never once played that deck actually. I theory-crafted the idea that I thought was interesting, but I haven't never actually played that deck in 3 years. Personally I think there's a place here to share cool ideas, especially ones that haven't been seen before. Not every deck posted needs to be vetted using multiple Expert villains. Or accompanied with a video proving how powerful the deck is.

Second thought I thought I would share is that I don't think this Nick Fury recursion loop is going to be as powerful as you think it is though. I'm a huge fan of loops, so I like to think I have some expertise. As I look at this one, I think the problem you'll have is that it doesn't net anything positive. What I mean is that you'll need to thwart 2 in order to get Shopping Spree to trigger Chance Encounter. Then, you'll get Fury into hand which will cost 4 resources to play. I think most people typically pick the 3 cards option, which then means that you've cycled your deck faster and are down one card in order to play Nick on the table.

The problem here then is that Nick provides for you 2 ATK or 2 THW and a block for this one card cost. 2 THW is probably the more valuable move, but this is what you needed to pay for the Shopping Spree in the first place. So rather than thwart with Nick, you could have just used the Beat Cops to thwart 2 somewhere else.

So at this point, Nick has cost you one card, but is giving you a block and some card cycling. Now to be fair, there is still the added cost of needing to put down Chance Encounter previously, so now Nick's block has cost us two cards. That's probably the going rate for negating a villain's attack. BUT, we would have needed to invest 8 resources into playing two Beat Cops previously... so that really cuts down on when we start getting a return on our investment, which I'm not sure is really that valuable of a return.

Now in all fairness, you do also get a free item each time you do this. Her Coat and Glasses will likely be your first targets, which will give you 6 ER back in return for those first two times. That needs to be accounted for for sure. But a free Cell Phone isn't a super big reward on after the first two times going through Shopping Spree, especially given the tempo needed to be given up to get those Beat Cops down first.

TL;dr version then is that each time you play Nick after the first two, it essentially boils down to getting a free Cell Phone and a block for 2 ER because the 2 THW is the payment cost. That's not a particularly great payoff based on how many hoops you need to jump through first.

Anyways, all that being said, if it is fun, hopefully people will enjoy it. Personally, I think the idea is clever to try and use Chance Encounter. I just don't think Nick is the right ally for this setup though.

Cheers!

Great idea. I'm looking forward to trying this out. I love that Shopping spree is being cleared with a two-fold purpose of not only getting items but more importantly used to recur an ally!

Chance encounter loops was definitely something I wanted to explore for Julbilee, so I like the idea here. After playing my first game with her last night, I will recommend cutting down the number of side schemes. Honestly if you are solo or 2 player, it's best to cut all of them (or keep 1 at most) if you are going shopping often with mutant education. That side scheme slot is just simply never available. I'd replace them with a few more allies. Prof, Ironheart, Vivian, Blindfold etc sound good. I'm also skeptical about how easy it is to get those beat cops out, getting 1 is easy enough but 2 is quite a commitment.
I think there should be a place here for theoretical decks as long as you are upfront about it, great to see your thoughts as always :)

I swapped a couple of beat cops and side schemes to get 4 lower cost allies. I needed the allies to help her survivability.

@Honorary Marleyan Lol thanks man! I always appreciate feedback as it helps me improve!

@Alien1Peter2:9-12 Thanks and yes I love trying to get the most bang for your buck with Shopping Spree. I agree Jubilee's survivability isn't the best and allies will definitely help out with that, especially when Nick Fury isn't available to recur.

@teamcanadahockey2002 Appreciate your perspective on deckbuilding and MarvelCDB! In regards to Nick Fury, a lot of your reservations are about him specifically such as being a 4 cost card, his effective resource cost when drawing back 3 cards, and if that's worth his basic activation and chump block. And I'd agree that there are times where that can feel lackluster depending on the situation. That being said, I personally feel like the versatility Nick provides makes him the best card in the game and is worth his cost. I also wouldn't count the Chance Encounter as an added resource because it essentially replaces itself with the Nick Fury card. I also think Chance Encounter is more valuable when played a turn in advance because then you're netting Nick Fury in a future turn where you didn't have to lose a card in your hand because Nick was tutored from the deck/discard pile. I also personally view the Beat Cops a bit differently. Yes, they are in this deck to remove threat from Shopping Spree, but they're valuable and versatile every turn to remove threat from any scheme if needed. In my playthrough against Magneto, I removed a total of 11 threat with the Beat Cops throughout the course of the game with maybe about half of that from Shopping Spree. I also agree that decks don't need a video to accompany them, but seeing a deck actually be played is the best way for me to personally visualize how to pilot them and I think it's valuable in explaining how my own decks work by showing rather than just telling. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I'm glad you thought the idea was clever :) it was really just copying my Cable deck but Jubilee has her own unique style with Chance Encounter because she has the only player side scheme that can currently be recurred.

@HeroicSkeleton I will never argue against adding more allies, that's always going to be a solid option to provide versatility and survivability! In regards to the side schemes, they're really there for if Jubilee cannot get the Shopping Spree combo going early. The majority of the deck revolves around defeating side schemes so if something stumps us like if Shopping Spree ends up in the discard pile turn 1 with the villain's setup or if we can't get the Beat Cops out like you mentioned, we can pivot to clearing the other player side schemes. I finally got a chance to try the deck and my experience so far is in line with your feedback, but I was facing Magneto who has plenty of his own side schemes (and I got my nemesis side scheme) to play around with so I didn't need my own side schemes as much. But I'd expect to lean into the player side schemes more against a different villain with less schemes. But I don't think going with allies instead is bad at all. At the end of the day, this deck is trying to play allies over and over again (Nick Fury) even though the actual ally count is low. Thank you for your feedback and I think you're right on the money with using more allies, I just personally found that it was provided for with the Chance Encounters combined with Nick Fury's deck cycling. And I really appreciate the support :)

Consider using Husk and maybe a mission training over Cell Phone. She is exceptionally powerful if you can consistently trigger the ready+heal. Jubilee has the resources to do so! I think Husk is a new staple of ANY Justice deck that can afford her.

@Dirius Cell Phone is a lot better than I was expecting. It ended up being the first item I pulled with Shopping Spree to deal with Magneto's board pressure. Husk has really good synergy with Jubilee. I wouldn't mind adding in more allies and just going over 40 cards because late game this deck mills fast with so many upgrade/supports in addition to Nick Fury's card draw. I agree Husk can be really strong, thanks for the input!

I built a deck similar to this, just adding Followed for more side scheme shenanigan fun, and it works very well. Here's hoping we get some more side scheme upgrades in the future!

@jearnettiii Very cool! Being able to proc Followed and Chance Encounter on a scheme sounds super fun. I’m also looking forward to more side scheme support. Cable and player side schemes really changed the game… i also want more minion support like “player minions” so we can create our own targets for aggression cards.

Man, you're one of the go-to best deck builders that I steal from on here! Don't let the nay-sayers get you down. You know the game so well, how the cards interact with each other, and your write-ups are always fantastic. I can't imagine you "need" to actually play something to see how it would all work. I appreciate all your contributions and delight in reading what you craft here.

Do what you want! We're all the better for it.

How about X-Gene?

@bigfomlof I really appreciate that. Thanks for the encouragement it really means a lot :)

@Alatreon I'm usually not a big fan of X-Gene because most of the time resource generators are most valuable in the beginning and I'm usually trying to set up during the early game by playing key upgrades/supports which X-Gene can't generate resources for. However, after playing Jubilee I realized she leans into her events throughout all portions of the game much more than other heroes so X-Gene is a great addition. There's also amazing Jubilee synergy generating a wild resource for the conditions in her events. It's probably just my bias but I would still put X-Gene as the 41st card as I think X-Jet is superior because of its versatility and in my experience Jubilee doesn't really struggle with resources because of her high economy.

So much fun. Pure control. But it was not a « rush ». I thwarted 4-5 times the mall, got Fury about this much. Very cool. I just added 2 multi talented because of versatility and great efficiency activating the Coat & Glasses at the same time. Having more than 40 cards is ok because we mill the deck hard. Great job again ! I love Jubilee !

@NaWaX Nice!!! Sounds like you played it perfectly. And i totally agree it’s okay going over 40 because we’re drawing so much and when we’re fully built out the deck is thinned and runs out fast. I’m glad you had fun I’m loving Jubilee too. And you’re absolutely on the mark with this deck being pure control, “Rush Hour” is just a reference to the movie haha

@Web-Warrior Fanatic Just played this deck 2 handed with another Justice Miles Morales deck and did very well. I would add a copy of Float Like a Butterfly as it really works well with the amount of Confuse Jubilee has and how it interacts with Grande Finale and Jubilee's Sunglasses. Each instance of damage on then gets +1 when you have Float on the table.

@HikariRyu so cool to hear that! I’m glad this deck performed well for you. Float Like a Butterfly is pure genius. With Float and Sunglasses, Grand Finale is doing like 16 damage?! I really like that addition.

@Web-Warrior Fanatic I think you can get it up to 18. Using 3 different resources for grand finale is 4 instances of 2+1 damage for 12 total, then 3 instances of 1+1 for the glasses.

@HikariRyu I believe sunglasses is 1 instance of damage (a single attack) but the value is higher if more different resource types were used for the prior attack event. So it would deal 3 damage after playing Grand Finale then +1 with Float like a Butterfly. I could be wrong, though! Jubilee is still a new hero and i think the wording on her sunglasses is open for interpretation.

Just read the last ruling and it is just one instance of damage. You only count them as different instances of damage if the "for each" clause has you "choose" a target every time. Still, over the course of the game it can add up to a lot of damage.

I played her with Miles since he also has a lot of confuse in his deck, he can also search for his web shooters as they are items and Float is also good for him.

This is the deck I used for him if you're interested: marvelcdb.com

I guess you could switch the Overwatch there for Surveillance Teams, maybe add Monica Chang for an easier way for Miles to complete Shopping Spree.

@HikariRyu Thanks for the rules clarification! And I agree it’s still tons of damage. Very cool Miles deck, it’s similar to one i used in a multiplayer game with Lime and D20. Combined with Jubilee, Float like a Butterfly goes crazy!

I didn't realize supports weren't included so I didn't ever use disguise in my previous games. Now though, I'm going to go back and try this again.

Thanks First of all @Web-Warrior Fanatic. Another great deck assembled. May I ask you 1 thing?

You put in the deck the SS “specialized training”. When you use it, do you put aside the 4 specialized cards? I’m missing this point.

@nln_rose nice! Hope it goes well!!

@Izanagithird thanks Izanagi :) for Specialized Training, you do set aside the 4 upgrades. Then, if Specialized Training is defeated, you can select 1 of the upgrades to put into play.